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3A Vienna Lager

Average Score 33.8 / 50
Scored by 4 People


Score Sheet #1 - Judged by a National judge and scored 31

Judge: Andy Weigel (andyweigel@gmail.com)
Judge Qualification: Provisional Judge
Entry ID: 55068974
Style: 3A Vienna Lager
Beer Info: Please note that this beer has a best by date of 8/31/2013 and it was judged 9/23/2013. Sold by Wegmen's in Mechanicsburg, PA after best by date. Wish I would have seen that before I bought it.
Descriptors:
Bottle Inspection: All Good
Bottle Comments:

Aroma:
Low amount of toasted, Munich malt-esque maltiness.
Low amount of medium caramel sweetness. Not quite to style.
Low amount of spice, possibly reminiscent of cinnamon.
Low amount of sweet corn. Not DMS.
No hop aroma. No diacetyl.
5 / 12

Appearance:
Medium copper, with emphasis toward shades of red. Brilliant clarity. Low amount of slightly off-white head that persists as a tight white mat on the surface.
2 / 3

Flavor:
Rich, toasty, melanoidin, malty character dominates the palate. A light caramel sweetness is present which is then followed by ample hop bitterness to keep it from being cloying.
Clean fermentation character. No esters, phenols, diacetyl or acetaldehyde.
Balance is significantly toward the malty.
Finishes toward the sweet side, approaching too sweet, but not cloying.
13 / 20

Mouthfeel:
Medium body with medium-light carbonation.
No alcohol warmth.
Moderate creaminess with no astringency.
4 / 5

Overall:
A good beer but has a couple of flaws. Caramel flavors and aromas are out of place in a Vienna Lager. Try decreasing the amount of caramel malt or decrease the heat on the boil to avoid kettle caramelization. The finish is a little on the sweet side. Possibly increase the amount of hops to balance out the sweetness, or decrease the mash temperature to allow for a higher amount of attenuation.
7 / 10

Total Score: 31 / 50

Style Accuracy: 3 / 5
Technical Merit: 3 / 5
Intangibles: 2 / 5

Score Sheet #2 - Judged by a Grand Master judge and scored 40

Judge email: scores@onlinebeerscores.com
Judge rank: Grand Master

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Score Sheet #3 - Judged by a Sensory Training judge and scored 35

Judge: Fred Mason (fmason79@gmail.com)
Judge Qualification: Sensory Training
Entry ID: 55068974
Style: 3A Vienna Lager
Beer Info:
Descriptors: Oxidized
Bottle Inspection: All Good
Bottle Comments: Filled appropriately

Aroma:
Medium malt aroma. Appropriate for style.
Low hop aroma also appropriate for style.
There is a slight oxidization aroma to the beer.

7 / 12

Appearance:
Amber in color.
Head is white with a slight red hue
Crystal clear with tiny carbonation bubbles
3 / 3

Flavor:
Nice malt complexity balanced with a noble hop. The hop flavor comes through more as the beer warms. There is a slight bit of spice in the finish. There is a slight alcohol flavor. As with the aroma I get a little bit of oxidization.
15 / 20

Mouthfeel:
Medium body, may be a bit much for style. Medium carbonation. Beer finishes a little dry for the traditional style.
3 / 5

Overall:
Overall a good example of the style. The Nobel hops balance the malt complexity.
7 / 10

Total Score: 35 / 50

Style Accuracy: 3 / 5
Technical Merit: 3 / 5
Intangibles: 3 / 5

Score Sheet #4 - Judged by a National judge and scored 29

Judge: Andy Weigel (andyweigel@gmail.com)
Judge Qualification: Certified
Entry ID: 55068974
Style: 3A Vienna Lager
Beer Info:
Descriptors:
Bottle Inspection:
Bottle Comments: Best by 7/18/2014

Aroma:
Medium level of lightly toasty base malt, with a low level of moderately rich, caramel-like malt aroma. Very low generic, spicy hop aroma. No esters. Slight honey-like sweet, oxidized aroma. Slight cooked vegetable aroma develops as it warms.
7 / 12

Appearance:
Medium copper, leaning to the red end of the spectrum. Brilliant clarity. Medium-low level of light tan head to forms a collar of tight bubbles around the edge of the glass.
3 / 3

Flavor:
Medium level of lightly toasty malt character with a medium level of rich caramel. Light honey-like sweetness (oxidation). Medium-high hop bitterness with low spicy hop flavor. Balance is toward the bitter, finish is medium dry. Mineral, chalky-like twang.
10 / 20

Mouthfeel:
Medium-light body with high carbonation. Medium level of warmth. No creaminess. Harsh mineral and hop bitterness.
3 / 5

Overall:
Overall a good beer with a couple of style issues. The bitterness is too high for the style and the alcohol warmth really takes away from the malt profile. There is really nothing "soft or elegant" about this beer, but rather moderately malty with a substantial hop bitterness and alcohol kick.
6 / 10

Total Score: 29 / 50

Style Accuracy: 2 / 5
Technical Merit: 4 / 5
Intangibles: 2 / 5


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